[AUUG-Talk]: Query about "unincorporated successor AUUG's" and AUUGs domain
lloy0076 at adam.com.au
Fri Feb 15 23:15:19 EST 2008
MODE: Devil's Advocate
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Friday, 15 February 2008 at 11:05:31 +1100, Lawrie Brown wrote:
>> Hi All
>> I'm (sadly) looking at my ballot instructions, but before I proceed
>> to vote, I was wondering whether anyone has actually put up their hand
>> to setup any unincorporated successor "AUUG" like associations that the
>> board are aware of.
> As I've mentioned from time to time, I've been thinking of it, but
> haven't contacted the Board yet. Board, this is the contact.
> It looks like a case of "now or never", so, for all to see, including
> auug-announce, whom the Board seem to have forgotten:
> - Stephen Rothwell, David Newall and I are prepared to continue the
> operations of AUUG, specifically the web server, including mail.
> - We'd like to continue the AUUG organization essentially as before,
> but without charging membership fees for individuals.
AUUG has become irrelevant as well as dead.
> - Where do we get our money from? We have some now, and it's my
> contention that we can run the organization on a shoestring. We've
> discussed this matter in the past, and some people have come up with
> non-trivial expenses such as accounting fees and insurance that
> might need to be paid. It's my contention that they're not needed:
> if we don't have any cash flow, we don't need to pay accounting
> fees, and if we don't have events we won't need insurance.
> - We *would* like to hold events, but that's down the road. First we
> need to reestablish a membership base, and then we can see whether
> the members are interested in being active.
Agreed - but you won't compete against the Linux user groups.
> - A number of people other than David and Stephen have expressed
> interest in running the downsized AUUG. I haven't mentioned them
> because I don't have a formal agreement to do so. But everybody is
> welcome to join in.
> In short, it'll be business as usual except for the membership fees.
> We specifically do *not* want to deincorporate AUUG (Board please
Apart from nostalgic reasons, why do we want AUUG to continue? Do we
really think the non-Linux vendors will matter any more? The only REAL
survivor I see is Solaris. HP UX, DEC Unix, AIX and all are going the
way of COBOL; they're being used but they're not being renewed; they've
become too expensive or risky to replace. But they are dying.
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