[AUUG-Talk]: Re: [Auugps] AUUGPS and AUUG status

Lawrie Brown Lawrie.Brown at canb.auug.org.au
Thu Oct 30 11:08:13 EST 2008

Hi Greg

I'm just going to address a couple of points.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:41:51AM +1100, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>   If, however, we want a new public officer, I now live in VIC and I'm
>   quite prepared to do what little work it is.

Changing public officer, if the board requests it, should just be a
case of submitting the relevant forms. For the existing AUUG, it
does indeed need to be a Victorian.

>   Christopher mentions finding the existing public officer to lodge
>   outstanding returns.  I can assure you that Luce will be no help

Well lodging a return for the last FY would be a good start. I'll check
with PeterW when he surfaces next, to see what his paperwork says.

> Committee:
>   As a number of people have observed: there *is* no board (committee
>   is the official word).  Consumer Affairs VIC tell me that we should
>   get some financial members together, anywhere (I'd suggest Canberra
>   :-) and elect a new committee.  No money is involved in this matter.

Actually I dispute this. As I have noted a couple of times ...

Firstly, pedant alert, it **IS** board, the wording was changed in 2005,
and is now reflected in the updated version of the constitution on the
AUUG website (thanks David) at:

Next, Peter Wishart nominated for Treasurer for the current board. His
was the only nomination (for ANY position), urgo he is elected unopposed
(the fact that there was no secretary extant to announce this doesn't
in my opinion alter his valid election to the board per the rules).

Clearly there are vacancies on the board. Per the rules, the board (ie
Peter :-) can coopt members to fill said vacancies. He has coopted me
(after I volunteered earlier this year). We are about to coopt more
people from the remaining members to get a functioning board. And yes,
it does indeed look like many will be ACT based.

> Financial assets:
>   Peter Jeremy suggested the Lions chair for the Lions fund.  That's
>   the obvious choice.  I was going to suggest the same for all assets.

The transfer of the Lions Award funds to the Lions Chair at UNSW has
already been approved both by the Lions trustees and the previous AUUG
board. Unfortunately this has not yet happened. It is clearly one
of the tasks the newly constituted board need to address before
resolving AUUGs future (either wind-up or evolution).

Gifting away most of AUUG's remaining cash to a suitable recipient
organisation is clearly another task we wish to address.

>   I don't think the new AUUG should have cash on hand.

I pretty much agree with that - however if its the existing AUUG, then
it WILL need some funds since it IS obligated to regularly file certain
things with CAV in Vic. They have fees for everything, and this WILL
eventually catch up with us!!!

Its the fees that form one of the valid arguments in my opinion for a
new organisation based in the ACT (which allows free filing for
small orgs, as has been noted).


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