[AUUG-Talk]: [Auugps] [Fwd: [Webmaster]: Aussie overseas inquiring about AUUG]

Greg 'groggy' Lehey Greg.Lehey at auug.org.au
Tue Sep 8 11:50:53 EST 2009


On Sunday,  6 September 2009 at 22:30:19 +1000, Frank Crawford wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-09-06 at 20:05 +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 18:59:33 +1000
>> Frank Crawford <frank at crawford.emu.id.au> wrote:
>>> Craig, Steve,
>>> 	I agree that I think this is an interesting idea.  It would be a
>>> continuation of AUUG and John Lion's traditions.  I'd like to see a
>>> physical printed book, as well as other distribution mechanisms.  I
>>> agree that we aren't intending to make money, so making it freely
>>> distributed is a good idea, although it should have a copyright, but
>>> something like it should be freely available to all, just give attribute
>>> on where it came from.
>> FWIW, the idea of publication sounds good, although going to the extent of
>> printing a book/ periodical seems, to me, like embarking on a whole swath of
>> issues to be managed.
>> Even well established and fully staffed publications like ACM Communications &
>> IEEE's Computer are going fully digital (not yet ditching the hard copies...
>> but i think it's only a matter of time before they do) .... maybe start from
>> website / ebook and see how it looks once there is something to be published.
> 	The one reason I suggest an actual book is that I believe it is seen as
> a more prestigious publication, where as an electronic publication while
> more easily managed is not quite the same.  It is something that would
> be in the National Library, select Universities, etc, not so much for
> general sale.
> 	Of course if we were going to do such a publication, I'd expect to hand
> most of the work over to someone like WoodsLane, etc.  If we get such
> support I don't see a single publication/year would be such a big issue
> to manage (however, finding anyone to do some management is a big issue
> in itself).

Not wanting to dampen people's enthusiasm, but I'd like to remind
people that the reason AUUG died was lack of commitment.  In terms of
publications, AUUGN died because the only people who did *anything* in
the last couple of years were you and I, and I had made it clear from
the start that it would be a temporary thing.  I'd love to see this
happen (and if things get under way, and people who don't contribute
financially to the successor organization are still welcome), then I'd
be happy to help.  In that connection I'd point out that I did the
complete production of my last book, and O'Reilly only printed it.
But I'm not holding my breath.

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