[AUUG-Talk]: Wind up AUUG: Objections?

[Kevin Dawson]

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 23:37 +1100, Lawrie Brown wrote:
> Hi Kevin
> 
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:54:29PM +1100, Kevin Dawson wrote:
> > > Hmmm - this looks like its been in a time warp, as I've not seen
> > > it before. However info is useful, thanks.
> 
> And I've since spoken to Peter, apparently it was held by mailman
> for being too long - so keep an eye on the length of posting for
> them to go out immediately.

Yep - the long one I've just sent now has come through.  10k is not much
email, is it :-)  What threw me last week was that there was no activity
at all for a few days after I sent that one, so I thought that the list
had stopped and I didn't have the time to investigate further.

> [ Good faith and Application for Extension of Time ]
> which I think recognises that sometimes there are problems, which
> need time to resolve.

Yes, it does, but it's not always reliable.  I've often had good results
when talking to various authorities about things like this, just not
always...

> And then you said ...
> 
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:14:29PM +1100, Kevin Dawson wrote:
> > With winding up, I agree - it's spelt out by both the Constitution and
> > the Act.  The problem I saw was that we don't have any reference to
> > trading or disposing of assets, except that they can't go to members.
> > All the proponents of AUUGPS are either members (thereby excluding
> 
> I don't think it is a problem, as the transfer is going to be to a new
> incorporated association. Just because its members include some of AUUGs
> is irrelevant, the owner of the assets will be a validly formed org.
> And those assets will be used consistently with the aims of that org,
> NOT for the personal benefit of specific members (which is the clearly
> stated aim of that item in the AUUG constitution).  I really don't see
> that there is an issue here.

I agree that transferring to another incorporated association prevents
issues of individual members; at the time I wrote that, I was still
reading that people were thinking in terms of it being unincorporated.

I also maintain the opinion I formed at the end.

> > > But do please give me a pointer to the current constitution...
> > http://www.auug.org.au/resources/roles/constitution.shtml , as
> > modified
> > by http://www.auug.org.au/resources/roles/change.shtml
> 
> Thanks - I had the first but not the second. The changes will
> clearly make some things easier.

Somewhere (maybe it was on the "new" portal) the changes were
incorporated into the Constitution, but I didn't see that version.

Thanks,
Kevin