[AUUG-Talk]: Re: Membership Renewals

[Stephen Jenkin]

Raymond,

Not sure why you sent me this...
If it makes you feel happier, I'm OK with that.

What others do and how they run their orgs is of no concern to AUUG.

There is an on-going problem with the administrative processes.
Good luck fixing them.

regards
sj


On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Raymond Smith wrote:

> Hi Steve,
> 
> I cannot speak to the historical points. I only joined
> AUUG in 1999 and have been active on the board since July
> 2006. So there is an awful lot I do not know.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 07:39:52AM +1000, steve jenkin wrote:
> > Ummmmm.  Reasonable record keeping and archiving has *not* ever been
> > part of the AUUG admin landscape... This problem is as old as AUUG.
> 
> This is a problem older than AUUG. I am sure that the
> Cuneiform Tablet User Group had just as many problems
> maintaining records. I have yet to belong to a voluntary
> organisation that did not have some admin problems.
> 
> > - AUUGN hasn't been consistently collected and held by
> its publishers.
> 
> I can't speak to this.
> 
> > - There is an enormous gap in the accounts.
> >    Yep - one board lost everything... A few years worth from memory.
> 
> I can't speak to this point. But I can say that Christopher
> Vance, Gordon Hubbard, and David Purdue have been doing
> a great job of keeping our recent accounts in order.
> 
> > - And then there's the membership lists being kept.
> >   There's no evidence that anything but the current members are known.
> >   Which makes it a little hard to reach out and invite donations :-)
> 
> We maintain lists of financial, recently unfinancial,
> and past memberships. The earliest expiry date for a past
> member in my records is June 1994.
> 
> > And down here in CBR, there is the yearly bun fight with the shared
> > infrastructure/ISP. For as long as I can remember, the AUUG renewals
> > have not been sent in a reasonable time.
> 
> Sorry for my ignorance here: but what is the relationship
> between the shared infrastructure/ISP and AUUG renewals?
> 
> > Summary:
> > 	AUUG and it's boards, with or without a paid Admin, have been
> > 	lousy with the paperwork.
> > 
> > When Chris was on the board, at least the accounts and the membership
> > list were in one place and findable...
>  
> Rest assured that there is one true copy of the accounts
> and one true copy of the membership list and these are 
> being managed by David Purdue.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Raymond
> -- 
> raymond at humbug.org.au
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